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harborshore ([personal profile] harborshore) wrote2010-12-10 11:51 pm
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no. okay? no.

I'm ostensibly studying for a phonetics exam tomorrow. I mean I am. I just keep getting angrier in the meantime, because look, look, as a couple of smart people have said, the following three things can all be true

1. Wikileaks is doing important work (about which I am alternatingly ambivalent and appreciative, but that's neither here nor there)

2. The international warrant for this particular sexual assault case is politicized (how seriously do they usually take sexual assault crimes in my country? NOT VERY.)

3. Julian Assange raped someone.

All of these things can be true.




The rape charge that was suspiciously inserted into the case when it was reopened? Is for having sex with woman no. 1 while she was asleep. This is a rape according to Swedish law, and the fact that a DA who specializes in sexual assault cases labeled it as such is potentially related to the fact that she knows her shit. Potentially.

And the fact that people keep arguing that they're not traumatized enough, oh my fucking god, seriously? Rape and similar crimes are not required to cause trauma, that is not fucking part of their legal definition. Also, I can't tell you how many times I've met women who were raped or assaulted by an acquaintance who said "well, he's a good guy, really" and weren't ostensibly scared of the perpetrator even as the stories they told were of sex against their consent. Holy fucking victim-blaming, please cut it out.

Similarly, what's with everyone being suspicious of them only reporting it when they found each other? "Obviously they are women scorned"? Really? What about "It's not just me" and "I'm not crazy, there was something weird about that, what happened was not okay"?

[identity profile] impertinence.livejournal.com 2010-12-10 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I love you. Seriously, like...sex when asleep = rape. How is this hard to understand? AUGH. People are the worst.
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[identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
It's not hard to understand! PEOPLE ARE JUST SO STUNNINGLY DENSE AT TIMES. The inability to recognize more than one thing as true at the same time baffles me. And infuriates me.

[identity profile] egelantier.livejournal.com 2010-12-10 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
a-fucking-men. it's so simple and yet nobody seems to want to get it. and yes, the fact that she probably wouldn't have her complaint taken seriously by law if he wasn't, well, assange? a sign of failure of law system in context of rape culture is sort of... more likely then evil cia honeytrap plot, it's really not rocket science. argh.
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[identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
ahahahahaha YES. infinitely more likely, in fact. and the fact that one DA (male) dismissed the case and then the female DA who specializes in sexual assault picked it up--surely that is also a sign of conspiracy? no?

[identity profile] mahoni.livejournal.com 2010-12-10 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that whole thing is pissing me off.
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[identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
SO MUCH.
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[identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 11:46 am (UTC)(link)

[identity profile] roadmarks.livejournal.com 2010-12-10 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Ughhhh seriously. SERIOUSLY.
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[identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 11:47 am (UTC)(link)
PEOPLE. PLS LEARN TO RECOGNIZE SIMULTANEOUS POSSIBLE TRUTHS. Or more than one, anyway.
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[personal profile] sansets 2010-12-11 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Can I go around and make EVERY FUCKING PERSON I've had a discussion with in the past week read this? I mean for realz. ♥
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[identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 11:47 am (UTC)(link)
FEEL FREE. I feel like stamping it to my forehead or making a pamphlet. "Before you discuss Assange with me, please read the following, or I will hit you over the head with the heaviest book on rape culture I can find."
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[identity profile] redbrickrose.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
All of these things can be true.

Yes, thank you. I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept.
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[identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
It baffles me. Surely we can accept that three things that are related and not directly contradictory can all be true? AUGH.

[identity profile] sullen-hearts.livejournal.com 2010-12-12 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
IAWTP.