no, israel

May. 31st, 2010 07:19 pm
harborshore: (one for sorrow)
[personal profile] harborshore
You do not attack an aid ship on international waters. You do not. That is only permissible under wartime maritime law or when you have been directly attacked. This was an aid ship and it was not going to Israel.

The information varies on what happened after that and whose fault anything was, but the consensus is this: 19 aid workers are dead, more injured. But all of that happened after boarding. You do not attack an aid ship on international waters.

ETA: Official death toll now says nine dead. Not as bad, but still fairly awful.

ETA 2: As this post puts it, the Israeli military-political complex is a far more useful term for the force behind the massacre of aid workers yesterday than the name of the nation Israel. The longer term presents a useful distinction between Israel the country, which it is possible to love even if you don't actually support this action, as it is possible to love other countries whose leadership perpetrates horrendous acts. It's a fairly important distinction.

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Date: 2010-05-31 05:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] iamsupernova.livejournal.com
I don't even know what to believe anymore. I don't believe the Israeli army is perfect and flawless (as my Jewish high school wanted me to believe) and I don't believe they're the bad guys either. I don't know how to deal with news stories like this, because there is no way for me to know what's true and what's confused facts and what's made up.

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Date: 2010-05-31 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oddishly.livejournal.com
I saw that this morning and have been raging all day.

Wait, hang on. It's nineteen now?

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Date: 2010-05-31 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jubella.livejournal.com
I watched a video about this this morning, and just. Israel has this invincible mentality that lets them think they can get away with certain things. It's just sad.
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Date: 2010-05-31 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antihysteric.livejournal.com
Oh my god. I don't even -- an aid ship, really? Just -- no, oh my god.

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Date: 2010-06-01 12:54 am (UTC)
x_dark_siren_x: (Destroyer.)
From: [personal profile] x_dark_siren_x
I love how there is always a difference between the initial figures, the official figures, and the other ones. I love how the official ones are always, always less. *despairs*

I'm with you. And it just. I don't understand why people aren't calling them over it. I'm sorry, but shit like this - less than this started world wars. I'm not saying I want that to happen again - dear God, no, that's the last thing I want - but there were consequences then. And people knew that. Now what?

I just. I just want things like this to stop happening.

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