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I swear, my cup runneth over. Apparently it's crappy sexism week!

So in order to make me a little less mad, would you help me out? It involves going to a Swedish website and voting. The website in question is Dagens Nyheter, which is our biggest daily newspaper. They currently have a poll up that asks why readers believe Sweden hasn't yet had a female prime minister. The three options to choose from are, from left to right: Diskriminering (discrimination), TillfÀlligheter (coincidence), and Brist pÄ kompetens (Lack of competence).

Currently the last one is winning. By a lot. Right, obviously it's because no female politician is qualified enough that our parties have had something like three or four female leaders through the years (if you discount the Green Party, because they have it written into their rules that they have to be led by a man and a woman) and that the Social Democrats haven't had one until now, and the Moderates (the biggest conservative party) never have. Obviously that's because the women aren't qualified enough.

In order to provide a little more context, the leader of the Social Democrats has been through all manners of hell because she's a woman. I can't even tell you how many fucking articles has been written about her handbag and her lack of firm leadership and--okay, breathing.

So if you would, go to the website above, scroll down just a little bit until you see the radio buttons, and clicking on the one to the left. I mean, if you're willing to take my word for it that discrimination is most likely the primary cause of this. There's no submit button or anything, just click on the radio button and your vote will get tallied. I don't expect that I have a big enough readership to actually win, but perhaps we could even out the numbers? I would really appreciate it.

PS: I know it's just an internet poll. But it's at a major newspaper and it's kind of reflective of how many people in my country seem to not think women are qualified enough to lead us. It's been a tiresome election year.

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Date: 2010-06-23 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] extemporally.livejournal.com
Done and DONE.

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Date: 2010-06-23 02:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com
Thank you! Argh and grr.

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Date: 2010-06-23 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] extemporally.livejournal.com
If you reload the page you can vote multiple times!!

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Date: 2010-06-23 02:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com
...oooooooooh. I like you, did you know that?

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Date: 2010-06-23 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahoni.livejournal.com
Done. (Though for some reason it took me clicking the link in your post three separate times before I saw the correct page content. I saw completely different content the first couple of times. Weird!)

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Date: 2010-06-23 02:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com
That's really weird! I totally appreciate the perseverance.

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Date: 2010-06-23 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] absenteye.livejournal.com
Holy shit, I hadn't even seen that! That is fucking terrifying and unbelievable and so fucking typical of our hypocritical motherfucking country, I swear to god I will fucking punch someone. This from a country that believes itself to be a ~pioneer in terms of gender equality, yet keeps implying that we've gotten so far we're pretty much done with the whole feminism bit (NOW CAN WE MOVE ON TO TALKING ABOUT HOW BAD TAXES ARE AND WHAT A SHAME IT IS THAT HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE LITTERING THE STREETS SO THAT HONEST CITIZENS HAVE TO TIPTOE AROUND THEM AMIRITE)

brb liking my entire flist to this!

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Date: 2010-06-23 03:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com
I know, right? The numbers of that fucking poll underneath that headline, it's seriously a slap in the face. It's time! Except apparently we think NO ONE WAS EVER QUALIFIED BEFORE. OR NOW, POSSIBLY. I'm just so tired of this crap! The only one who can lead our country is a man! Finland has had a woman! So has Norway! WHY ARE WE SO BEHIND, HMM?

<333333333333333 times a million.

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Date: 2010-06-23 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] absenteye.livejournal.com
Those numbers are seriously seriously gross, I can't even. Ugh, I can't even handle that so many people think there has NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND existed a woman that could be prime minister of Sweden, ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME. I kind of wish Gudrun Schyman was prime minister, ngl, but I'll take Mona Sahlin over Reinfeldt any day. GET OFF YOUR FAILY SEXIST HORSE SWEDEN, RIGHT NOW.

<3333333333333333333 times infinity.

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Date: 2010-06-23 08:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com
I am fond of Gudrun Schyman! And Maria Wetterstrand! And Birgitta Olsson, dammit, WHY IS SHE ON THE WRONG SIDE. And Mona Sahlin! GOD, that lady has been put through hell for this and yet she keeps trying. I am of the admiration for both her and Schyman, who still do this. GET OFF YOUR FAILY SEXIST HORSE SWEDEN INDEED.

the numbers make me SO UNHAPPY. who ARE THESE IDIOTS?

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Date: 2010-06-23 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] absenteye.livejournal.com
Gudrun Schyman is such an awesome debater, oh man, I've had a political boner fore her since I was like thirteen or something! But yeah, there are so many awesome female politicians, I cannot BELIEVE people seem to think women don't make good politicians! Or maybe it's just that they don't think women can be good leaders, which, AAAAAARGHHHHH FUUUUUUU.

THEY ARE MOTHERFUCKING MORONS, THAT'S WHO! Errr. PARDON MY UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE.

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Date: 2010-06-23 04:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] athenejen
Done!

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Date: 2010-06-23 04:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com
Thank you!

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Date: 2010-06-23 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] expastic.livejournal.com
Totally voted! That sucks. D:

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Date: 2010-06-23 05:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com
SO TIRED OF THIS. And the election's not until September. I just, COULD they find another angle to talk about the fact that we have our first female prime minister candidate? Could they?

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Date: 2010-06-23 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightlilac.livejournal.com
Done - several times!

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Date: 2010-06-23 08:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com
<33333333333!!!

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Date: 2010-06-23 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torakowalski.livejournal.com
Voted! Also: wft? /o\

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Date: 2010-06-23 08:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com
I know right? AUGH. And thank you!

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Date: 2010-06-23 07:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] x_dark_siren_x
(if you discount the Green Party, because they have it written into their rules that they have to be led by a man and a woman)

That is a good rule to have!

I'll vote. >.<. If only because someone should be encouraged towards having a female PM. I wondered (out loud, that was my mistake) why there were no women running for PM this election over here? My friends - who are all guys - just looked and me and said, "Because none of the party leaders are women." *facepalm* So not the point, guys. (And yet, I guess it kind of was, but not in the way they meant it.) And one of the smart-mouths decided to add that the candidates hadn't been announced yet, so how did I know there weren't going to be any independent female runners?

I'm pretty sure there weren't any.

I've heard that people don't want another femal PM because Thatcher was the last one. Yeah, well, Thatcher was also the last (at least, significant) Conservative PM, and guess what we have right now? -__-'

I kind of really wish our major newspapers did stuff like this. But then, our major newspapers are owned by Rupert Murdoch, and you do not want to know what The Sun ran the day before the election...

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Date: 2010-06-23 08:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com
Thank you! Ahaha, I suspect the correct follow-up question is: so why do you lads think there are no parties with female leaders?

But dude, at least you've HAD a female PM. We never have. Ever.

...wait, do you? It's a fucking sexist poll, I wouldn't wish that on anyone else. The one semi-decent thing they've done is finally running an article on why we haven't had a female PM--but they've also spent MONTHS talking about how people don't think she's enough of a strong leader. THANKS MUCH, DOUCHEBAGS.

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Date: 2010-06-23 08:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] x_dark_siren_x
I guess. :/ I wish I could feel happier about that, but. I'm Scottish, and my parents' families were working-class. My dad grew up in a mining town.

It's more like...I wish they would acknowledge that there is even a POSSIBILITY of a woman doing well in politics (Harriet Harman does not count, for various reasons), aside from "Iron Maggie" (if you live anywhere in the UK except Scotland /o\). Which, I realise this paper isn't either? But I think the fact you and I are talking about it, in separate countries - on the other side of the sea, even - proves that it's got people talking, even if only in small quantities.

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Date: 2010-06-24 07:16 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com
I could have sworn I replied to this? Weird.

No, man, I totally get that Thatcher's not who you'd want. For sure. It's just that none of our more conservative parties seem to have even contemplated a female leader, which is tiresome. The Centrist party has one, and she's fabulous, but the Moderates and the Christian Democrats never have. ETA: And I wouldn't vote for them ANYWAY, but the Social Democrats have also never had a female leader before.

Well, they sort of have to acknowledge that there's a possibility of a woman doing well, since she's been chosen to be the leader of the Social Democrats and they're the biggest party--it's basically a result of a party-internal election that went something like: "oh well we're in trouble we can try having a woman leader now"--but the majority of the coverage on her is like "People think Sahlin is a weak leader" "oooh look at her purse" etc. Which, this poll is very unfortunately phrased. And par for the course. I realize I explained it badly--essentially the debate is about her, because of her position.
Edited Date: 2010-06-24 09:46 am (UTC)

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Date: 2010-06-23 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wethepainted.livejournal.com
Voted a bunch of times.

I'm shamefully uninformed about Finnish politics, but I think our second female prime minister, Mari Kiviniemi, was appointed to the position two days ago and that makes me a little bit proud of this country right now.

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Date: 2010-06-24 07:18 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com
Thank you!

Yes she was! And I think that's awesome. Plus, it's your second one. Also, you beat us by like fourteen years in the whole votes for women thing. *nods*

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Date: 2010-06-23 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosykate.livejournal.com
Voted! Multiple times, actually. It's funny, my women and politics class was full of praise for Sweden for being not as dreadful as we in America are, and totally glossed over the fact that sexism and misogyny still exists. Sigh.

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Date: 2010-06-24 09:45 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com
Ah, we like to think that. See, because we have some good laws, obviously feminism is no longer needed. Much like the US having a black president means racism is no longer a problem, right? Right?

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Date: 2010-06-24 01:43 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] redbrickrose.livejournal.com
Done. <3 Ugh, that's so disheartening.

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Date: 2010-06-24 09:46 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com
Yes it is. :( Why are people stupid?

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